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  • rogerglewis 4:44 am on April 12, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Aestheticism/ Asceticism. 

    I was pondering on the notion of Aestheticism and the the Vows of Poverty in some religious paths chosen by or for persons of that persuasion. Matthew Arnold, John Ruskin, Ghandi, Descartes, Socrates, Alan Watts, Witgenstein, Shoppenhauer, Neitszche.
    All to some extent combine a sort of mixture of Vow of Poverty, Romanticism, Aesthetisism. or aspiration towards it, all also owe a debt of sorts or have a grounding in the treasures of Eastern Mysticism ( On my very limited understanding and exposure?)
    Is Champagne Socialism a contradiction?( Ask Marx or Engels?) everything is a contradiction of something at some part of the spectrum of Human consciousness, Consciousness denoting and encompassing both understanding and misunderstanding. ( see freedom FIghter Vis Terrorist )

    ” Don’t it always seem to go, You don’t know what you got till its gone” Discuss?

    They paved paradise
    And put up a parking lot
    With a pink hotel, a boutique
    And a swinging hot spot

    Don’t it always seem to go
    That you don’t know what you’ve got
    Till it’s gone
    They paved paradise
    And put up a parking lot

    They took all the trees
    Put ’em in a tree museum
    And they charged the people
    A dollar and a half just to see ’em

    Don’t it always seem to go
    That you don’t know what you’ve got
    Till it’s gone
    They paved paradise
    And put up a parking lot

    Hey farmer farmer
    Put away that DDT now
    Give me spots on my apples
    But leave me the birds and the bees
    Please!

    Don’t it always seem to go
    That you don’t know what you’ve got
    Till it’s gone
    They paved paradise
    And put up a parking lot

    Late last night
    I heard the screen door slam
    And a big yellow taxi
    Took away my old man

    Don’t it always seem to go
    That you don’t know what you’ve got
    Till it’s gone
    They paved paradise
    And put up a parking lot

    NOTE TO SELF.

    Read some philosophy from the fairer sex.

    Themistoclea

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    Themistoclea (or Themistokleia, Greek: Θεμιστόκλεια; also Aristoclea, Theoclea; fl. 6th century BCE) was a priestess at Delphi. According to surviving sources she was Pythagoras’ teacher.[1]
    In his biography of Pythagoras in his Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers, Diogenes Laërtius (3rd century CE) cites the statement of Aristoxenus (4th century BCE) that Themistoclea taught Pythagoras his moral doctrines: [2]

    Aristoxenus says that Pythagoras got most of his moral doctrines from the Delphic priestess Themistoclea.

    Porphyry (233 – 305 CE) calls her Aristoclea (Aristokleia), although there is little doubt that he is referring to the same person.[3] Porphyry repeats the claim that she was the teacher of Pythagoras:[4]

    He (Pythagoras) taught much else, which he claimed to have learned from Aristoclea at Delphi.

    The 10th-century Suda encyclopedia calls her Theoclea (Theokleia) and states that she was the sister of Pythagoras, but this information probably arises from a corruption and misunderstanding of the passage in Diogenes Laertius.[5]

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_philosophers

    Plato amongst many other things advocated the Banning and exile of Poets and Poetry and the use of the 

    Dorian and Phrygian modes only would be permitted in the republic(.1.)

    Ascetic. From Wikepedia.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism

    In the third essay (“What Do Ascetic Ideals Mean?“) from his book On the Genealogy of MoralsFriedrich Nietzsche discusses what he terms the “ascetic ideal” and its role in the formulation of morality along with the history of the will. In the essay, Nietzsche describes how such a paradoxical action as asceticism might serve the interests of life: through asceticism one can overcome their desire to perish from pain and despair and attain mastery over oneself. In this way one can express bothressentiment and the will to power. Nietzsche describes the morality of the ascetic priest as characterized by Christianity as one where, finding oneself in pain or despair and desiring to perish from it, the will to live causes one to place oneself in a state of hibernation and denial of the material world in order to minimize that pain and thus preserve life,[21] a technique which Nietzsche locates at the very origin of secular science as well as of religion. He associated the “ascetic ideal” with Christiandecadence. 

    (1.) Church Music and Protestantism in Post-Reformation England: Discourses …
     By Jonathan P. Willis P.14  Plato Repulic Page 100.


    This is a later edit it is now today I wrote the main part of the Blog yesterday. Was I confusing Asceticism with Aesthetisism. I think I was although I was aware of the distinction or focus of each I had morphed them into the description of parts of the same thing Beauty in simplicity. My next task is to consider further some of the philosophy of the sophists from where we get our word Sophistication can anything Sophisticated be beautiful or is sophistication merely a justification for compromise and Is sophistry truly at heart a justification of the unjustifiable founded out of necessity or wanton selfish will? In the word sophistry the sophists get a pretty bad billing so I want to take a look at what they were said to be about?
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  • rogerglewis 2:51 am on April 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Wow…rare Indeed! | LinkedIn. Style over Substance , Triumph or Tragedy? 

    Wow…rare Indeed! | LinkedIn

    Putting it crudely in the words of the famous old rugby song.

    Rich Girl uses Vaseline , Poor Girl uses Lard Dinah uses Axle grease cos her @™£$ is so Hard. Dinah Dinah Show us your Leg.

    One Mans Fish is indeed another mans Poisson.

    Packaging and marketing a triumph of stylisation over substance, the job for the way a fiat monetary system to work is to create increasing demand for goods that no one really wants or needs but to convince them that they do. Gas, Jonesing, Penis Envy. Mythology.
    It is a really nice looking Strat, would be nice to hear how it sounds after all thats a major point another point is it will sound better to some than to others and play better for some rather than others even in separate pairs of expert hands it will have a different character.

    As women and indeed some men I understand pay for the packaging for cosmetic items as much for the unctions contained therein, it seems that Guitars have been endowed with the same brand spin objectification its a value in use over value in possession dichotomy rather less honest than perhaps some debates in Art regarding form and Function.

    Mythologising and then owning an object of desire becomes a substitute for the purpose or ability to use the item in question Money is not wealth and ascribed value is not wealth but systems apply tokens to abstracts to create artificial rarity and where the differences do not exist we simply make them up or fall for someone else’s story telling.

    W C Fields told us way back when , Never Give a Sucker and even break, well back in the 30’s the absurdities of the 1920’s were barely over and of course there followed a terrible 15 years. Similarly in an exaggerated repeat of History as tragedy here we are playing out similar tragedies and Guitars for some folk have become a pathetic token of some sort of reflected worth.

    Its just a reflection of a wider malaise, not really worth sweating on the small stuff but Nota Bene

    55 minutes ago
    • Its interesting I woke up pondering the idea of How attachment of importance to ownership outside of any rational utility was absurd. And i wanted to find some parable related to the possession of anything not being an endowment of the power to produce what it produces the notion of we could own a thousand canaries but we still could not sing like a canary? Hans christian Andersons Emperors New clothes takes a lot of beating but Epictetus is a pretty shrewd character.
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